GORUCK Founder Jason McCarthy on Sustainable Toughness Artwork

Movement Podcast

Human movement is complex, fascinating, and affects us all. Our hosts, Gray Cook and Dr. Lee Burton, have dedicated their lives to understanding movement and have trained thousands of fitness and healthcare professionals worldwide with their holistic philosophy and approach. Listen as they discuss topics, speak with other industry experts, answer questions & give practical advice on how you can optimize the human body to be the best it can be.

All Episodes

Movement Podcast

GORUCK Founder Jason McCarthy on Sustainable Toughness

July 16, 2026 • Gray Cook and Dr. Lee Burton • Season 7 • Episode 102

0:00 | 1:24:36

In this episode of the Movement Podcast, Gray Cook sits down with Jason McCarthy, founder and CEO of GORUCK, former Green Beret, and one of the leading voices behind the modern rucking movement.

Jason and Emily McCarthy started GORUCK in 2008 while Jason was serving in Special Forces and Emily was working with the CIA. Their original goal was to build a rucksack to life-or-death quality standards—gear capable of performing in demanding environments around the world.

What began as a rucksack company has grown into a larger movement built around gear, training, events, GORUCK Clubs, teamwork, service, and the belief that ordinary people are capable of extraordinary things.

In this conversation, Gray and Jason explore the deeper lessons behind rucking and military physical culture, including the difference between productive discomfort and unnecessary damage, why running has often been overemphasized in demanding training environments, and how readiness should guide the way we prepare for challenging work.

They also discuss:

• Jason’s path into Special Forces after September 11
• How GORUCK grew from an idea into a global rucking community
• The Green Beret mission of working by, with, and through others
• Why rucking is foundational to military preparation
• The difference between pain and productive discomfort
• Why overtraining can become an ego problem
• Tendon health, connective tissue, and sustainable strength
• The role of yoga, mobility, and breathing in high-intensity cultures
• Why risk and readiness should be evaluated separately
• How movement screening can reveal hidden physical vulnerabilities
• Rucking as a lifelong health and fitness practice
• Why children naturally run, jump, carry, and climb
• Health span, service, and staying capable for life

This conversation is about more than backpacks or workouts. It is about building a physical culture that challenges people while helping them stay capable, resilient, connected, and ready for the long term.

Learn more about the GORUCK story:
https://www.goruck.com/pages/about-goruck

Explore GORUCK:
https://www.goruck.com/

Learn more about Functional Movement Systems:
https://www.functionalmovement.com/

Functional Movement Systems

Subscribe to the FMS Newsletter